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		<title>The Difference Between Making a Profit and a Killing</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Boric</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[James Boric reports from the home of the struggling Indiana Hoosiers &#8212; Bloomington, IN&#8230; *** Happy Holidays to everyone. I certainly hope you are enjoying family, friends, some adult beverages and fantastic food. I am. In the spirit of the holiday season, I will keep my notes short today. After all, the market is closed. [...]<p><a href="http://pennysleuth.com/the-difference-between-making-a-profit-and-a-killing/">The Difference Between Making a Profit and a Killing</a> was originally featured in the <a href="http://pennysleuth.com">Penny Sleuth</a>. </p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="Normal">James Boric reports from the home of the struggling  Indiana Hoosiers &#8212; Bloomington, IN&#8230;</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">*** Happy Holidays to everyone. I certainly hope you are  enjoying family, friends, some adult beverages and fantastic food. I  am.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">In the spirit of the holiday season, I will keep my notes  short today. After all, the market is closed. And we have food to eat! But I do  have two interesting nuggets to share with you&#8230;</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">First, I hope you received your exclusive membership to  join Carl Waynberg&#8217;s GRIP service. The GRIP is a screening tool that tracks  &#8220;jumper stocks&#8221; &#8212; the most explosive small-cap stocks in the world. These are  the tiny companies that trade on the forgotten OTC BB and pick sheets exchanges  that eventually &#8220;JUMP&#8221; to the NASDAQ, AMEX or NYSE &#8212; and make investors obscene  amounts of dough in the process. </span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">If you haven&#8217;t read your GRIP report, please check your  e-mail inbox now. It is </span><br />
<span class="Normal">important to sign up  BEFORE Jan. 1! </span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">That email is so valuable, that I&#8217;m including a special  link to the information&#8230;</span><br />
<span class="Normal"><a title="WGRPEC16" href="http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/GRP/WGRPEC16">http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/GRP/WGRPEC16</a></span><span class="Normal">.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">If you sign up before the New Year, you will save 80% off  the sticker price. This is the best deal you will ever see! You can be certain  the price will rise quickly come 1/1/2005. Please take advantage of this offer  while it lasts.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left"><span class="Normal">*** Speaking of 2005, check out Irwin&#8217;s essay on due  diligence. It&#8217;s an incredible story about his run-in with the legendary Larry  Ellison of Oracle (who just made headlines again after winning his 18-month  battle to acquire PeopleSoft). As Irwin mentions, it&#8217;s just the kind of story  that New Year&#8217;s resolutions are made of. Irwin, put the pedal to the  metal&#8230;</span><br />
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<p style="text-align: center"><strong><span class="pny-subhead-black">The Difference Between Making a Profit and  Killing</span></strong></p>
<p><span class="Normal">It was Monday afternoon, April 20, 1987, and I raced my V8  Mustang against the clock on a winding road. I was running late for an interview  with one of Silicon Valley&#8217;s most notorious and controversial warriors &#8212; Larry  Ellison, the founder and CEO of Oracle Systems. But my meeting with Ellison  wasn&#8217;t for a job interview. At the time I had been a journalist &#8212; and I was  absolutely determined to walk away with a blockbuster story.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Back then, before Oracle built it&#8217;s three enormous towers,  the company had a tiny facility on a cul-de-sac&#8230; accessible through a steep,  narrow road lined with eucalyptus trees.  When I arrived, his secretary showed  me into his office. It was small, but had an expansive feeling. In an alcove  over his right shoulder, a large Buddha offered a serene smile&#8230; quite contrary  to the expression that Ellison had greeted me with.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">I sat down across his desk and tried to warm him up with  chitchat. He wasn&#8217;t interested.  So I delved right into the questions that I had  written for myself in advance. His answers were either single-word comebacks or  long-winded exhortations to hype a product &#8212; and time was running out on my  interview.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Finally, it dawned on me how to crack Ellison. I started  talking about how great his most fierce rival was. I could resort to this  because I was thoroughly prepared going into the interview. You have to be when  you&#8217;re climbing into the ring with a tough nut like Ellison.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">And my preparation paid off&#8230; big time.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">In a classic case of one-upmanship, he started bragging  about the next-generation database that Oracle was about to  introduce.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Forty minutes later, I left his office with a page-one  scoop.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">So what does my story about Larry Ellison have to do with  small-cap investing?</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Today, many small-cap investors will find themselves in a  situation similar to the one I found myself in trying to extract meaningful  information from Larry Ellison. Why is that?</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Because expert information on small-cap opportunities is  becoming increasingly difficult to obtain. And that often leaves only one person  to dig it up&#8230; you. </span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">But what do you really need to know, and even more  important, how do you get it? This process is called due diligence. It is the  most important aspect of successful investing, especially in fast-moving  small-cap stocks.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Wall Street legends such as Warren Buffett, John Templeton  and T. Rowe Price </span><span class="Normal">sometimes spend years conducting  due diligence on a company or an emerging market before investing a single  penny.  And you could do worse than follow their examples.  After all, these  billionaires got their start with small-cap stocks.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">So the burden falls on you to find the best quality  intelligence on a company&#8230; before you invest.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">For many would-be small-cap investors, due diligence often  involves spending hours on the Internet. The problem with that is you&#8217;ll never  find the critical qualitative information &#8212; the insider opinions that can often  make the difference between a profit and a killing. </span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">I&#8217;m suggesting a bold alternative. It involves that thing  on your desk with the keypad and the handset, which produces a dial tone when  you pick it up.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Reporters generally get their most valuable information  from phone interviews. But since you don&#8217;t have the credentials of the New York  Times or The Wall Street Journal, how do you break through to a  company?</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Before I give you some important tips about that, there&#8217;s  one thing that you have to bear in mind.  As either a shareholder or potential  investor, you have an inalienable right to get the best possible information  from a company. That&#8217;s the primary job of investor-relations professionals. You  can find their phone numbers on the company&#8217;s Web site.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">That said, you also have to conduct yourself like a  professional investor. You have to treat investor-relations folks with respect  and courtesy, and not waste a lot of their time&#8230; just like a reporter  does.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Based on my experience as journalist, here are some simple  rules you can follow to get the information you need&#8230; and put you on the path  to a moneymaking, small-cap investment. </span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Set up your phone call appointment in advance&#8230; and be  punctual at the time of the call.  If you&#8217;re in a different time zone, make sure  that you establish whether it&#8217;s eastern, central or Pacific time. E-mail can be  a great tool for this initial contact.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Before your scheduled phone call takes place, be PREPARED.  Preparation shows that you are a knowledgeable investor&#8230; just the kind of  person that a company wants support from. </span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">The best way to be prepared is to make a list of  questions. Ideally, this list should take no more than 20 minutes to go through.  You should ask about things that aren&#8217;t typically found in an annual report,  such as:</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">* Management&#8217;s philosophy toward its employees and  customers</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* The life expectancy of a main product  line</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* Sudden changes in the marketplace that could  either increase or reduce risk</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* Emerging industry  trends that could impact the company</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* New  formidable competitors on the horizon</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* Employee  turn-over (are the rats abandoning a sinking ship?)</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* Local economic-development that could bring new employee talent  into the region</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* The company&#8217;s plans for domestic  or international expansion.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">A phone call is also a wonderful opportunity to ask about  things you may not understand. </span><br />
<span class="Normal">This could  include:</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">* Arcane footnotes in an annual report</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* Odd items in a financial statement such as asset write-downs or  goodwill</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* If there&#8217;s an unusually high volume of  insider selling, why is that?</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* The percentage of  revenues derived from the single, largest customer (you don&#8217;t want </span><br />
<span class="Normal">to invest in a company that relies on a single  customer for most of its income)</span><br />
<span class="Normal">* Is there a high  level of returns on a new product?</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">As you go through your list of questions, don&#8217;t be  long-winded. You&#8217;ll get great results by being polite, professional and to the  point. </span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">In fact, it&#8217;s those three qualities that helped me break  through to Ellison. By being polite, I demonstrated a clear sense of respect. It  was my professional demeanor that led him to trust me enough so that he knew I  wouldn&#8217;t screw up this very valuable piece of information he was giving me.  And  by getting to the point, I never wore on his patience.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">So if you&#8217;re in the habit of making New Year&#8217;s  resolutions, you may want to ponder one about using the phone to dial for  small-cap dollars.</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Happy investing,</span></p>
<p><span class="Normal">Irwin Greenstein</span></p>
<p><em>December 24, 2004</em></p>
<p><a href="http://pennysleuth.com/the-difference-between-making-a-profit-and-a-killing/">The Difference Between Making a Profit and a Killing</a> was originally featured in the <a href="http://pennysleuth.com">Penny Sleuth</a>. </p>
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